- Copied from Mai Lan's blog
- Lan dau di Zouk
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Follow my colleagues, I went to Zouk for the first time. I asked Terence what was so famous about Zouk, he said "among all the clubs in Singapore, this is the one last the longest". According to him: "this club is built with a culture and the culture lasts". (Well, I'm not quite sure what he meant). We arrived at 10.45pm and I saw a long queue at the main entrance. Luckily Benjamin had booked 3 bottles of wine and secured 10 seats for us. Guest how much was the 3 bottles of wine? 550++ for 2 Chivas and 1 vodka, my goodness...
My first feeling was it's quite a local young environment. Not like clubs at Clark Quay with full of foreigners at 30-40s, you could find a lot of young and local faces at Zouk. Most of them were only less than 25, so I felt quite save here and not to worry someone will put something in my drink. It was dark inside and the music was so loud. There were so many people as well. You couldn't talk but scream to each other ears. I saw my colleagues mixing the wine with ice and coke (later on then I knew it was to dilute the liquor), I myself ordered a fruit punch (I knew for sure I could not consume such high level of liquor, even a little amount like a wine cap could knock me down and get rash for few days so I'd better play save). It was quite ok for the first few hours, just drinking and dancing...But later on, with the the high level of alcohol in the body, people started behave differently. I saw a lot of girls got drunk, couldn't move properly and guys need to hold them stand. Intensionally or unintensionally, they started hugging each other intimately, even involving 2,3 guys or girls at the same time. My group spent a lot of time dancing and taking photos, I hoped I could loss some of my fat after a few shakes there haha... At the end, Racher and LiLing started to get drunk, they danced and screamed loudly. And I saw some guys from my group start taking "intensionally or unintensionally" actions.
I got home at 2.45am in the morning. A good place to hang out if you want to be held by someone which is not your love one.
I have nothing against dancing / drinking / etc ... But to be honest, I extremely crazily hate this kind of bar and dance in S'pore. Alcohol are there, and when people are drunk, they do a lot of stupid things, and they can do bad thing to you.
One more thing, it's about going home late. I don't think "it's singapore, it's safe" is a good excuse. Being late is being late, and it's about danger. It's the time of drunken guys and who know.
I've learnt to accept if my closed ones want to go there. But I would always hate that. It brought me a lot of bad memory indeed.
For my 7 years here, I've never been to any of those ....
PS: some one came and keep arguing with me (in person) about this topic. So I decide to make clear some of my points:
1. I wrote the part highlighted in blue color and only that part. Whatever I wrote, I just mean it and nothing else. In particular, there were only 2 points: 1. I myself hate that due to some bad stuffs I encountered and 2. I personally think that it's not safe to go there as it involves alcoholic drinks and late staying. Also note that I am discussing in the context of "some gals enjoys going there (in a small group of 2 or 3 girls frequently (say every 2 weeks, once a month)" and "they go back late".
2. For which I wrote to answer your comment, please take it in the context of a response to the previous comment and don't take it separately. For example, my response to Charlotte: "Charlotte: "nice ppl don't go there", isn't it too strong to say. Mine would say "nice ppl should not go there"" has no intention about classifying those who go there, it essentially means "if I'm to say that sentence, I'd rather say blah blah". I would also clarify that I hate the place itself and I have definitely no opinion/comment about people going there. (As someone talks to me as if I am having a bad attitude toward the people there. So I repeat, this is not about people, it's about the place and the activity of going to that place)
3. I am very keen on discussing this matter. But please limited it to be on the blog. I think it's safer to for a written discussion (in the sense that you think more carefully about what you want to say).
4. If you like to go there, please go. If you go with your bf, with some (reliable) friends to enjoy the music/drink/environment, that's pretty safe and nice. Nevertheless, the choice is yours.

i've been there more than 3 times... i went there with a group of friends and felt completely safe with them around... :-?
Trả lờiXóaI have been there too, but do not really like it. Maybe I am not a good dancer... only know to jump follow the music, crazy huh ? But it is good to try a new thing
Trả lờiXóaWell well, I must confess that I'm a bit extreme for the matter. But the fact is that, well, it'll be safe if: 1. she goes with some one who can protect her if necessary and 2. just once in a while. I see no common point between going to Orchard (esp in Xmas eve) and going to bar (well I hardly see girls going to bar with some guys accompany them, they go with other girls isn't it). I recall the time when one of my friend was working in a 7/11 store near by Clarke Quay and every night he saw a lot of those night hunters and from what he told me, I have no good feeling about these places.
Trả lờiXóaOut of the words, if there's any chance for someone to harm my friend(s) (as Lan described), I would never want them to be there. There're better places to have fun, I believe.
I've been to Zouk. It was quite a fun experience. I didn't notice anybody drunk then maybe because I left early (about 12am) but I do not think it as a dangerous place. One simple rule: do not get drunk (I think this rule applies everywhere). It's certainly not a place to talk but a place to get out of "your system". He he.
Trả lờiXóaAnyway, I haven't been there again since then because I'm a sleepy sleeper who can't afford to sleep so late.:D
You should go once at least before hating it :-)
Trả lờiXóaBack home from the 1st time there, I was thinking it's suitable for those who are in grest distress, lonely, depressed and utterless. Very good tool to explode yourself. My 2nd time there was just 10 minutes.
I've been to zouk twice though didn't pay attention to the above-mentioned phenomena, and not aware of them. It's not such a disgusting idea for bars/ pubs to exist. If you're comfortable with the noise, alcohol and cigarettes, I guess it'd be ok.
P.s. I don't like it :-)
Pup: yeah, I'm also pretty sure that not so many people get drunken before midnite, or else how so many can stay until 2 3am
Trả lờiXóaGirlie: I was mentioning about "neither lonely nor depressed" people who still find these places a great interest. And my point is about staying late (after midnite) also :). I know that over there, there's a totally different world after midnite. And the later it is, the wilder people go ;)
Nevertheless, my point is still "There're better places and better ways to have fun"
"Nice people don't go there" was my British teacher's answer when I asked him if I should follow my friend to go to a pub. The answer was kind of surprise for me because I thought Westerners are mostly bar-goers. I totally agree with you that there're better places and better ways to to have fun than going to disco, bar or club where alcohol is the main agent to people's drunkenness, excuses to sexual abuse, and perhaps drug (as I know drug is easily found and sold there). Of course the aftermaths I mentioned are not applicable to everyone but if there is a possibility, the price of it may not be cheap.
Trả lờiXóaI don't have any experience with those places, 've never tried, but 'd like to try, once at least, if reliable companies are available :P (to see if it's really truly impossible for me to fit in there lol)
Trả lờiXóayup mr. seine river, u're a bit communist, how u know there're "better place" b4 you're in the "worse place".
Trả lờiXóapls try once and at the same time lend your helping hand to the one in need :-))
interesting topic....we can take days and nights to discuss about this...I myself also dont like going to discotheque...I tried MOS once in my bday to see how its like...thats it! However, going to a bar/pub is completely different. Bars and pubs are places for friends to hang out to have couple of drinks and talk more casual. Agree that you can talk in food court, restaurants, etc. But western people prefer having beers and talking to being in restaurants...too formal...I was amazed at the effect of going to bars with colleagues after working...(not too often though)...I really felt they were more open, friendlier and closer than ever...Trust me, if you want to expand your networking with non-asian people...bars and pubs are the best way to get into their true personalities...You can of course achieve the same results by having talk during lunches...but will take longer time hahhahaha...
Trả lờiXóaI've been once to a pub (no dancing, only drinking). My experience is that it's not much different from McDonald. Counting guys only, I think it's perfectly OK. For gals, be more careful and it's OK too. It's a rich culture anyway.
Trả lờiXóaalo Huy mama oi la mama :D As far as I can recall, being out on Singapore streets at that hour was never taken as too late by NTU standard (it was even in contrast)! Back to the time when I was living in Somerset, that was occasionally the hour my roommies and I wandered around Orchard Rd to look for... food (well, not many choices though, we had to count seven-eleven food in). And I am quite sure the time our group got back to my place on that Christmas eve was not that early!
Trả lờiXóaI guess it's pretty safe if the gal(s) goes to those places with someone/those she knows or can trust that she is to be protected in awkward situations. Listening to music while being a bit tipsy and feeling good can incite you to pour out thoughts/feelings easier than in normal circumstances :D That could be a place where you're more truthful to yourself and leave your invisible 'cage' outside (and pick it up on the way back home :D). I am definitely not a regular patron to bars, yet still far from being someone who paints it black! :P
It's really fun bro, give it a try... if you don't like dancing, just sit there, have a bit of cocktail and watch ppl playing around. Don't be too extreme hehe.
Trả lờiXóaCharlotte: "nice ppl don't go there", isn't it too strong to say. Mine would say "nice ppl should not go there" :P
Trả lờiXóaLe Hoai: yah, reliable companies who won't get drunk.
Girlie: will myself experience it for one day ;)
Vocathe: No no, we are not talking about friends hanging out there for casual talk. We are about some girls going there who are underestimating the risk of going back "alone" (i.e., lack of 'reliable companies') at 2 3am.
Giang: You leave b4 10pm didn't you. Comparing pub & McDonald is really a strange idea. Btw, it's hard to define "more careful". Let's imagine the context when they get there, got some nice guys approaching, enjoy a couple of drinks, get a bit drunk and you may let things happen without much care. That's the risk :)
Darkmouse: you know I like dancing, I kind of like drinking. I've been to some places like that (not in Singapore) and I have no problem with trying once here. Just to show some opinions and advise for young gals to practice safe :P
Trả lờiXóaI wish I have chance to go to such the places, just to try :). And of course, acompanied with a reliable friend, I 've thought about that. Maybe it is not safe place, but it doesn't mean unsafe for all ppl at all.
Trả lờiXóaquestion: is Mr. Seine River a reliable company?
Trả lờiXóa:P :P :P
@Hoai: Nah, definitely not :D Though I'm good at fighting :D
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